Inside Kingdom and Co. podcast Santa Barbara Estate sitting and dining room walkthrough with wood beam ceiling and iron chandeliers

Inside Kingdom & Co.

Hosted by Lincoln Rogers and the Kingdom & Co. team, we started this podcast to pull back the curtain on the design-build world. This podcast was born from a desire to bring clarity and confidence to a process that often feels overwhelming. Whether you're renovating, building from the ground up, or simply exploring your options, we're here to offer refined insight and trusted guidance. From navigating timelines and budgets to understanding design choices and construction challenges, this podcast is your guide to a smoother, smarter experience from concept to completion.

Santa Barbara Estate: Sitting & Dining Room | Inside Kingdom & Co. Podcast

 

 

In this episode of Inside Kingdom & Co., Lincoln Rogers and John McDonough walk through the sitting and dining room of the Santa Barbara Estate in Southern Highlands. They discuss the home’s isokern masonry fireplaces, hand-carved plaster detailing, museum-quality art lighting, and hand-scraped walnut floors.

 

Lincoln: Alright, so John, talk to us about the details of this fireplace.

 

John: Yeah, I love the fireplaces in this home because they truly are like, you don’t see this typically in today’s architectural style where you have the actual old looking fireplace.

 

They’re true isokerns, they’re masonry fireplaces, no doors on them like you saw in the old homes.

 

But these fireplaces all had to be steel stud framed because to get these bevels, and then we plastered every one of these, these weren’t done with sheetrock.

 

So everything was plastered to get the detail and the drawings that he wanted, the architect and the owner, they wanted it to be exactly this look.

 

So we had to nail it, it was just a lot of work to get these to this point.

 

Lincoln: Beautiful, beautiful stuff.

 

John: Yeah, I love the Spanish setillo tile on the hearse down here, I love what the interior designer did with the grates, just making it look truly authentic.

 

Lincoln: I was walking with Krysti, she said she loved the bevel edge.

 

Yeah, isn’t that great?

 

All the furniture in the house, if you see it, most of them are antiques from different eras and it all has a story.

 

Every piece of furniture in this house has a story.

 

Lincoln: And different parts of the whole world.

 

John: Yes.

 

All over the world.

 

Correct.

 

Lincoln: Very cool.

 

 

Lincoln: So John, talk to us a little bit about this area and how there’s a lot more that goes into it than most people think.

 

John: Yeah, so the owner wanted, he’s got some really unique art here.

 

And in the museums, when you go to the really, like the museum in New York and the high end museums, their art lights don’t just shine down, they literally don’t shine past the frame.

 

So what takes, what has to happen is it gets built into the ceiling and the box that the art light is in is about 20 by 20 by 20.

 

And then that art light has a lens on it that actually, they carve the lens to the exact dimensions of the photo, of the art I mean.

 

So that way the light doesn’t, you don’t see light shining past and it looks like this is illuminated from the inside.

 

So really impressive.

 

Every one of these art pieces has those lights that are built into the ceiling.

 

Lincoln: Aren’t the lights like made out of crystal or some type of like…

 

John: Yeah, I think the lens has to be hand carved.

 

You send the dimensions of the frame to that and they actually hand carve that lens to those exact dimensions.

 

Lincoln: Awesome.

 

John: Living room.

 

I love this room.

 

Love the double chandeliers, the big table.

 

This would feel like something you would see in an old house that, you know, they had a lot of parties on and the wood beam ceilings, knotty alder on the ceilings, all walnut floors, three quarter solid hand scraped floors throughout the house.

 

Lincoln: Very nice.

FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
What are the key elements of a luxury dining room design?2026-04-21T15:04:51-07:00

The key elements are a well-proportioned table and seating plan, layered lighting with dimmable controls, and surface finishes that reward close inspection. Hand-scraped walnut floors, hand-carved plaster detailing, and museum-quality art lighting work together to create a room that feels ceremonial yet inviting for everyday meals. Kingdom & Co. designs dining rooms as layered compositions, coordinating flooring, wall treatments, lighting, and fireplace details so every element supports a cohesive atmosphere.

What are the differences between masonry fireplaces and prefabricated fireplace options?2026-04-21T15:05:12-07:00

Masonry fireplaces are built on-site from brick, stone, or engineered systems like Isokern and deliver superior heat retention, design flexibility, and longevity compared to metal prefabricated boxes. Isokern units use lightweight volcanic pumice modules that can be finished with custom plaster or stone surrounds, giving designers the structural advantages of masonry with easier installation. Kingdom & Co. specifies Isokern masonry fireplaces in its custom homes, then wraps them in hand-carved plaster surrounds that tie each fireplace to the room’s architectural character.

How should art lighting be designed in a luxury home?2026-04-21T15:05:30-07:00

Art lighting should use adjustable, low-heat fixtures positioned to eliminate glare and render colors accurately on the artwork. Museum-quality picture lights and recessed accent fixtures with high CRI ratings protect the art while drawing the viewer’s eye exactly where the designer intends. Kingdom & Co. plans art lighting layouts early in the design phase, coordinating fixture placement with wall composition, ceiling height, and the specific pieces the homeowner intends to display.

What are the pros and cons of hand-scraped hardwood flooring?2026-04-21T15:05:47-07:00

The main advantages are a rich, textured surface that hides everyday wear and adds Old World character to any room. The primary consideration is cost, because each plank is scraped by hand, which makes production slower and more labor-intensive than machine-distressed alternatives. Kingdom & Co. selects hand-scraped walnut flooring for projects where warmth and tactile detail are priorities, and coordinates the stain and scrape pattern with the home’s broader material palette.

How is decorative plaster detailing used in custom home interiors?2026-04-21T15:06:03-07:00

Decorative plaster detailing adds sculptural depth to walls, ceilings, fireplace surrounds, and archways that flat drywall cannot achieve. Artisans hand-carve or cast plaster ornaments on-site, allowing patterns to wrap seamlessly around corners and follow the room’s unique geometry. Kingdom & Co. uses hand-carved plaster detailing throughout its custom homes, designing motifs that reference the project’s architectural style and pairing them with complementary finishes like hand-scraped wood and wrought iron.

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Santa Barbara Estate: Sitting & Dining Room | Inside Kingdom & Co. Podcast

 

 

In this episode of Inside Kingdom & Co., Lincoln Rogers and John McDonough walk through the sitting and dining room of the Santa Barbara Estate in Southern Highlands. They discuss the home’s isokern masonry fireplaces, hand-carved plaster detailing, museum-quality art lighting, and hand-scraped walnut floors.

 

Lincoln: Alright, so John, talk to us about the details of this fireplace.

 

John: Yeah, I love the fireplaces in this home because they truly are like, you don’t see this typically in today’s architectural style where you have the actual old looking fireplace.

 

They’re true isokerns, they’re masonry fireplaces, no doors on them like you saw in the old homes.

 

But these fireplaces all had to be steel stud framed because to get these bevels, and then we plastered every one of these, these weren’t done with sheetrock.

 

So everything was plastered to get the detail and the drawings that he wanted, the architect and the owner, they wanted it to be exactly this look.

 

So we had to nail it, it was just a lot of work to get these to this point.

 

Lincoln: Beautiful, beautiful stuff.

 

John: Yeah, I love the Spanish setillo tile on the hearse down here, I love what the interior designer did with the grates, just making it look truly authentic.

 

Lincoln: I was walking with Krysti, she said she loved the bevel edge.

 

Yeah, isn’t that great?

 

All the furniture in the house, if you see it, most of them are antiques from different eras and it all has a story.

 

Every piece of furniture in this house has a story.

 

Lincoln: And different parts of the whole world.

 

John: Yes.

 

All over the world.

 

Correct.

 

Lincoln: Very cool.

 

 

Lincoln: So John, talk to us a little bit about this area and how there’s a lot more that goes into it than most people think.

 

John: Yeah, so the owner wanted, he’s got some really unique art here.

 

And in the museums, when you go to the really, like the museum in New York and the high end museums, their art lights don’t just shine down, they literally don’t shine past the frame.

 

So what takes, what has to happen is it gets built into the ceiling and the box that the art light is in is about 20 by 20 by 20.

 

And then that art light has a lens on it that actually, they carve the lens to the exact dimensions of the photo, of the art I mean.

 

So that way the light doesn’t, you don’t see light shining past and it looks like this is illuminated from the inside.

 

So really impressive.

 

Every one of these art pieces has those lights that are built into the ceiling.

 

Lincoln: Aren’t the lights like made out of crystal or some type of like…

 

John: Yeah, I think the lens has to be hand carved.

 

You send the dimensions of the frame to that and they actually hand carve that lens to those exact dimensions.

 

Lincoln: Awesome.

 

John: Living room.

 

I love this room.

 

Love the double chandeliers, the big table.

 

This would feel like something you would see in an old house that, you know, they had a lot of parties on and the wood beam ceilings, knotty alder on the ceilings, all walnut floors, three quarter solid hand scraped floors throughout the house.

 

Lincoln: Very nice.

FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
What are the key elements of a luxury dining room design?2026-04-21T15:04:51-07:00

The key elements are a well-proportioned table and seating plan, layered lighting with dimmable controls, and surface finishes that reward close inspection. Hand-scraped walnut floors, hand-carved plaster detailing, and museum-quality art lighting work together to create a room that feels ceremonial yet inviting for everyday meals. Kingdom & Co. designs dining rooms as layered compositions, coordinating flooring, wall treatments, lighting, and fireplace details so every element supports a cohesive atmosphere.

What are the differences between masonry fireplaces and prefabricated fireplace options?2026-04-21T15:05:12-07:00

Masonry fireplaces are built on-site from brick, stone, or engineered systems like Isokern and deliver superior heat retention, design flexibility, and longevity compared to metal prefabricated boxes. Isokern units use lightweight volcanic pumice modules that can be finished with custom plaster or stone surrounds, giving designers the structural advantages of masonry with easier installation. Kingdom & Co. specifies Isokern masonry fireplaces in its custom homes, then wraps them in hand-carved plaster surrounds that tie each fireplace to the room’s architectural character.

How should art lighting be designed in a luxury home?2026-04-21T15:05:30-07:00

Art lighting should use adjustable, low-heat fixtures positioned to eliminate glare and render colors accurately on the artwork. Museum-quality picture lights and recessed accent fixtures with high CRI ratings protect the art while drawing the viewer’s eye exactly where the designer intends. Kingdom & Co. plans art lighting layouts early in the design phase, coordinating fixture placement with wall composition, ceiling height, and the specific pieces the homeowner intends to display.

What are the pros and cons of hand-scraped hardwood flooring?2026-04-21T15:05:47-07:00

The main advantages are a rich, textured surface that hides everyday wear and adds Old World character to any room. The primary consideration is cost, because each plank is scraped by hand, which makes production slower and more labor-intensive than machine-distressed alternatives. Kingdom & Co. selects hand-scraped walnut flooring for projects where warmth and tactile detail are priorities, and coordinates the stain and scrape pattern with the home’s broader material palette.

How is decorative plaster detailing used in custom home interiors?2026-04-21T15:06:03-07:00

Decorative plaster detailing adds sculptural depth to walls, ceilings, fireplace surrounds, and archways that flat drywall cannot achieve. Artisans hand-carve or cast plaster ornaments on-site, allowing patterns to wrap seamlessly around corners and follow the room’s unique geometry. Kingdom & Co. uses hand-carved plaster detailing throughout its custom homes, designing motifs that reference the project’s architectural style and pairing them with complementary finishes like hand-scraped wood and wrought iron.

RELATED EPISODES
Inside Kingdom and Co. podcast Santa Barbara Estate living room walkthrough with leather seating and wood beam ceiling

Santa Barbara Estate: The Living Room | Inside Kingdom & Co. Podcast

Inside Kingdom and Co. podcast Santa Barbara Estate front facade walkthrough with Spanish-style exterior and terra cotta roof

Santa Barbara Estate: The Front Facade | Inside Kingdom & Co. Podcast

Inside Kingdom and Co. podcast Santa Barbara Estate entryway walkthrough featuring Spanish-style architecture and exposed beam ceiling

Santa Barbara Estate: The Entryway | Inside Kingdom & Co. Podcast

Inside Kingdom and Co. podcast Santa Barbara Estate sitting and dining room walkthrough with wood beam ceiling and iron chandeliers

Inside Kingdom & Co.

Hosted by Lincoln Rogers and the Kingdom & Co. team, we started this podcast to pull back the curtain on the design-build world. This podcast was born from a desire to bring clarity and confidence to a process that often feels overwhelming. Whether you're renovating, building from the ground up, or simply exploring your options, we're here to offer refined insight and trusted guidance. From navigating timelines and budgets to understanding design choices and construction challenges, this podcast is your guide to a smoother, smarter experience from concept to completion.

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