
Inside Kingdom & Co.
Hosted by Lincoln Rogers and the Kingdom & Co. team, we started this podcast to pull back the curtain on the design-build world. This podcast was born from a desire to bring clarity and confidence to a process that often feels overwhelming. Whether you're renovating, building from the ground up, or simply exploring your options, we're here to offer refined insight and trusted guidance. From navigating timelines and budgets to understanding design choices and construction challenges, this podcast is your guide to a smoother, smarter experience from concept to completion.
Santa Barbara Estate: Dry Bar Walkthrough
In this episode of Inside Kingdom & Co., Lincoln Rogers and John McDonough walk through the dry bar at the Santa Barbara Estate. From French porcelain countertops that had to be fabricated to millimeter precision overseas to hand-painted Moroccan tiles shipped in panels from North Africa, every surface in this bar tells a story of craftsmanship and coordination.
Lincoln: Okay, John, so tell us more, I remember you guys when we walked through this property and you were showing us and telling us these stories, this to me stood out a lot just because of how much went into these countertops that most nobody would ever understand or think of.
Explain this to us.
John: Right, so basically the owner didn’t want like a typical granite or quartz countertop in the kitchen.
He wanted this, it’s almost like a porcelain bowl, how they make porcelain.
So these countertops came out of France, they were literally made in France, they were put in containers and they were shipped here.
The challenge was you cannot cut this because it’s like porcelain.
So the measurements had to be perfectly, they’re within millimeters because they do their measurements in centimeters and millimeters over there.
So when we got the cabinetry in, we had to do templates.
We actually made wood templates of the countertops, shipped them to France with the measurements called out and they came back, and if you zoom in on these details, when you see this, the countertop looks like it’s got fine little hairline cracks like you’d see in old China.
So that’s what’s so impressive about it, but you just, I’ve never seen anything like this in a home and it’s such a stunning look.
Lincoln: Right.
Was there any challenges with doing this?
Is there anything that you look back on and like, oh man.
John: Yeah, it was super nerve wracking because if we made a measurement wrong or we didn’t have that right, you cannot cut this stuff.
So when it shows up, you better be spot on with your joints and your seams and the measurements or it wouldn’t work and then it would, you’re eating it.
Lincoln: How many times did you measure it?
John: Probably 10.
Me and my superintendent.
Lincoln: Yeah, a lot.
John: Hickory cabinets, this is a wood that he wanted this rustic hickory that you can see the old nail holes from when it was in like a barn or wherever they got it.
And it’s a really unique look, like I love the character of these cabinets.
Lincoln: Anything specific on the backsplash, I know there’s a lot of Moroccan tiles and things like that.
John: Yeah.
This is all handmade tile.
A lot of it we’ll show you later was actually from Morocco, but they panelized it and made it in panels and put it on in a shipping container and shipped it here all put together.
So once again, we had to make sure the measurements were perfect.
This is just six by six hand painted, but beautiful, beautiful tile.
Lincoln: Yeah, love it.
In this episode of Inside Kingdom & Co., Lincoln Rogers and John McDonough walk through the dry bar at the Santa Barbara Estate. From French porcelain countertops that had to be fabricated to millimeter precision overseas to hand-painted Moroccan tiles shipped in panels from North Africa, every surface in this bar tells a story of craftsmanship and coordination.
Lincoln: Okay, John, so tell us more, I remember you guys when we walked through this property and you were showing us and telling us these stories, this to me stood out a lot just because of how much went into these countertops that most nobody would ever understand or think of.
Explain this to us.
John: Right, so basically the owner didn’t want like a typical granite or quartz countertop in the kitchen.
He wanted this, it’s almost like a porcelain bowl, how they make porcelain.
So these countertops came out of France, they were literally made in France, they were put in containers and they were shipped here.
The challenge was you cannot cut this because it’s like porcelain.
So the measurements had to be perfectly, they’re within millimeters because they do their measurements in centimeters and millimeters over there.
So when we got the cabinetry in, we had to do templates.
We actually made wood templates of the countertops, shipped them to France with the measurements called out and they came back, and if you zoom in on these details, when you see this, the countertop looks like it’s got fine little hairline cracks like you’d see in old China.
So that’s what’s so impressive about it, but you just, I’ve never seen anything like this in a home and it’s such a stunning look.
Lincoln: Right.
Was there any challenges with doing this?
Is there anything that you look back on and like, oh man.
John: Yeah, it was super nerve wracking because if we made a measurement wrong or we didn’t have that right, you cannot cut this stuff.
So when it shows up, you better be spot on with your joints and your seams and the measurements or it wouldn’t work and then it would, you’re eating it.
Lincoln: How many times did you measure it?
John: Probably 10.
Me and my superintendent.
Lincoln: Yeah, a lot.
John: Hickory cabinets, this is a wood that he wanted this rustic hickory that you can see the old nail holes from when it was in like a barn or wherever they got it.
And it’s a really unique look, like I love the character of these cabinets.
Lincoln: Anything specific on the backsplash, I know there’s a lot of Moroccan tiles and things like that.
John: Yeah.
This is all handmade tile.
A lot of it we’ll show you later was actually from Morocco, but they panelized it and made it in panels and put it on in a shipping container and shipped it here all put together.
So once again, we had to make sure the measurements were perfect.
This is just six by six hand painted, but beautiful, beautiful tile.
Lincoln: Yeah, love it.

Inside Kingdom & Co.
Hosted by Lincoln Rogers and the Kingdom & Co. team, we started this podcast to pull back the curtain on the design-build world. This podcast was born from a desire to bring clarity and confidence to a process that often feels overwhelming. Whether you're renovating, building from the ground up, or simply exploring your options, we're here to offer refined insight and trusted guidance. From navigating timelines and budgets to understanding design choices and construction challenges, this podcast is your guide to a smoother, smarter experience from concept to completion.





